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Forgiss:
--- Цитата: dolgachov от Декабря 26, 2007, 08:37:40 pm ---so touch and assistants are about rape and harrassment stuff?...
...it's all personal, again. i just mentioned how different we are. what one considers rule, it thing other considers "no-no" and vice versa. ;]
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It's just my own "best practice" rules for my business based on local Labour Law and Terms of Employment (part time or full time)
dolgachov:
i think i maybe forgot you employ models. it changes things, sure. for those who hires models all posible "no-no" things should work. so yes, i think your practice is more useful for most of those who read us here then mine.
so please anybody reading us, keep in mind the things i say about the way i work can be NEVER applied to any possible sort of work when you hire models or models hire you. if any "employment (part time or full time)" is involved, please read the rules DNF-Style, Forgiss ans realdealphoto wrote here and take them as a law.
Talya:
I guess, you may let your assistant go to a bathroom, but for the rest of time assistant must be in the studio.
She does not need to scream. She will leave your studio drank (or even get drank after as you let to know everybody that alcohol is not forbidden in your studio), obtain some record (police record for minor crime, for example). Then when one of her pictures appear in glamor magazine, she will say that your force her to take nude (or close) photo, then sign a release. Even if nothing of this will stay in court (but it may), this is not the kind of publicity you want. I do not see how money paid/received make any difference in this situation.
realdealphoto:
For me the No Touch without permission is first and foremost simply about respect.
Lev I would never presume that you would be agreeable to my touching you in the course of a normal conversation or even in the course of a photoshoot. I have a respect for ones personal space and will not as a general rule of conduct violate or enter that personal space in any way without prior permission. Where a model is concerned I ask that permission each and every time I need to touch her. If I have worked with her many times I may only ask the firsttime duruing the session but as it has become habitual for me to ask it is most likely I would still ask "May I?" each and everytime I needed to touch her. Again it is simply about respect and because I show the model that respect I have never had one refuse to allow me to make any adjustments I felt were needed to obtain the shot I wanted.
All the legal issues are of course very much true, especially here in the US where society is so litigious. Here I don't need to be guilty of doing anything wrong to find myself in a situation where I have to defend myself against accusations. So the more bases I keep covered to protect myself the better.
A model may full well understand the way I work and my expectations, rules etc. when she comes into the studio but nothing is to say that she can not become upset during or after the shoot and if she does there is nothing to prevent her from making claims, be they true or false does not matter, they then have to be defended. So if I am never alone with a model and do not touch her without verbal permission and have witnesses to the same then I am better able to defend myself should the need arise. So far it never has but I must as a business person always be ready for the day that some model goes Bat Shit crazy on me.
dolgachov:
Talya, how big is your experience with real models studio work?
did you ever sign a real relase with model? i mean WITH WITNESS?
1. how the fantasy you just gave us can apply to models who sign releases WITH WITNESS after shoothing sessions?
2. should i bring assistant with me EVERYWHERE now? to be sure i never ever stay tete-a-tete with anyone? becouse if i'll stay, person will get drunk, makes a minor crime and says in court i forced her to get drunk, naked and criminal? ;]
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