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forum => International forum for English speakers => General discussion => : DanPadavona July 28, 2008, 01:45:30 PM

: Will you leave Stockxpert?
: DanPadavona July 28, 2008, 01:45:30 PM
 :(

I sure hope it doesn't come to this.

From the way I, and many other contributors, interpret the usage rights in the Photos.com deal it appears designers will get rights reserved for an EL license by a simple 30 cent subscription purchase.  They will be able to put our images on t-shirts and mugs for resale.

This is terrible news, and it has been confirmed as true in the official thread:

http://www.stockxpert.com/forum.phtml?f=showtopic&n=15291&p=2 (http://www.stockxpert.com/forum.phtml?f=showtopic&n=15291&p=2)

Steve,

I know you frequent this forum.  I have to believe there are a lot of large contributors who will pull out immediately if these license terms are allowed to go through.  I enjoy working with Stockxpert, but I won't hesitate to pull out if we are going to be giving up so many rights on our images for a lowly subscription payment. 

I can't help but wonder...WHY?  The RM folks have been saying for years microstock was nothing but companies racing to the bottom.  Price increases in recent months have gone through rather well at Shutterstock and iStock.  Clearly designers are willing to pay up for our images.  Why in the world would any company, let alone SXP, desire to basically give our images away?  Don't you profit considerably more by selling an Extended License than a sub sale? I just don't get the logic in this at all.
: Re: Will you leave Stockxpert?
: dolgachov July 28, 2008, 09:08:20 PM
Dan, let's wait and see
: Re: Will you leave Stockxpert?
: DanPadavona July 29, 2008, 01:11:46 AM
I won't make a hasty decision Lev.  I have faith Steve/SXP will come through for us, as they always have in the past. 
: Re: Will you leave Stockxpert?
: dolgachov July 29, 2008, 03:10:02 AM
i believe it will be ok. SX team are smart people, so no need to worry now.
: Re: Will you leave Stockxpert?
: DanPadavona August 01, 2008, 03:44:17 PM
Lev, I couldn't be on the call due to my work schedule.  I just finished reading the notes, and am sifting through the SXP forum thread.

It doesn't look like it went well at all.  SXP wants to keep the EULA as is, allowing EL type rights for a subscription sale.  I want to see the final plans in writing, and that is coming this month.  However under these terms, I assume I will be deleting my portfolio once everything is in writing. 

Do you have any thoughts on the SXP/Photos.com situation?
: Re: Will you leave Stockxpert?
: dolgachov August 01, 2008, 05:56:06 PM
i had a private discussion with Steve today.

my expectation is everything will be fine.

i described my vision and recommended few things. one of them is changing EULA, for sure.
: Re: Will you leave Stockxpert?
: DanPadavona August 13, 2008, 05:31:05 PM
I opted out of subs Lev, as the EULA was not changed.  Too bad, as I thought it was an interesting opportunity for everyone involved.  If they alter the EULA according to what a lot of us want, then I will opt back in as I have nothing against subs per se. 

How could I have anything against subs?  Shutterstock is my #1 earner for 8 consecutive months?   8)
: Re: Will you leave Stockxpert?
: dolgachov August 13, 2008, 10:52:56 PM
no rush, my friend. 2 remaining days is a HUGE timeline, believe me.
: Re: Will you leave Stockxpert?
: DanPadavona August 16, 2008, 05:35:19 AM
Good call Lev.  They changed the EULA in the final moments.  I opted back in, and am breathing a bit easier.   :headbang:
: Re: Will you leave Stockxpert?
: dolgachov August 16, 2008, 05:41:41 AM
i knew it, i helped SX team to sort this out best possible way. but i promised to keep silence, that' why all i could say was "no rush, Dan".

thanks a lot for care. actually you was the first person i've got inital info from. thank you, my friend!  :headbang: